From Bad to Worse
SoCalDem has done a statistical analysis...
...on several swing states, and EVERY STATE that has EVoting but no paper
trails has an unexplained advantage for Bush of around +5% when comparing
exit polls to actual results.
In EVERY STATE that has paper audit trails on their EVoting, the exit poll
results match the actual results reported within the margin of error.
So, we have MATCHING RESULTS for exit polls vs. voting with audits
vs.
A 5% unexplained advantage for Bush without audits.
Maybe Dubayah believes God will see him through this, but it's going to
take more than blind faith to pull the wool over the data and the facts.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 12:42 AM by SoCalDemocrat
EDIT:
Analysis of the polling data vs actual data and voting systems supports the
hypothesis that evoting may be to blame in the discrepancies. Nevada has
evoting but with verified receipts. In that state the Exit Polling matches
the actual results within .1% accuracy. However for other swing states Bush
has unexplainable leads.
I'm still compiling data. Please help me determine what voting methods are
being used in swing states and which are evoting without audit trails. Post
your data under the individual state responses below.
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Kerry is well ahead in exit polls, but still losing the counts. WTH is
going on?
Kerry is well ahead in Exit Polling in Ohio. We're being screwed.
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/O...
Male: 51/49 Kerry 47%
Female: 53/47 Kerry 53%
Dem: 91/8 Kerry 38%
Rep: 94/6 Bush 37%
Ind: 60/39 Kerry 24%
Here is exit polling for Florida (3,824,794 votes for Kerry & Bush)
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/F...
Male: 52/47 Kerry 46%
Female: 52/48 Kerry 54%
Dem: 86/13 Kerry 38%
Rep: 92/7 Bush 39%
Ind: 60/38 Kerry 23%
3,824,794 votes for Kerry & Bush
2065388 Women (54% of total)
1759405 Men (46% of total)
Bush leads male vote by 5% of M = 87970
Kerry leads female vote by 4% of M = 82615
That means Bush is ahead by just 5355 votes in exit polling in FL.
Another odd thing is that there are more Reps then Dems in Florida by 1%,
which is not expected. Either there are more voting Republicans in FL than
Democrats, a first and not matching known statistics, or more Republicans
were exit polled than Democrats. If the exit poll is off by just 1% that's
a difference of 382479 more voters who are Democracts.
The results being posted however show Bush ahead 326,000 actual votes. This
is simply not possible from the exit polling numbers. Even skewed for a 5%
higher Republican vs. Democrat turnout from 2000, it doesn't add up.
WISCONSIN:
Kerry leads Female voters by 7%, Bush leads male voters by 7%. Male vs.
Female voter turnout is 47% M, 53% F. That means Kerry statistically has a
7% edge in exit polling in Wisconsin.
Actual results however show Bush ahead by 1%, an unexplained difference of
8%.
NEVADA:
Just checked, same pattern. Kerry leads in the exit polls by a clear
margin, but is still behind in the reported results. This state is even
closer. Actual is just 1% favor of Bush. Exit polls show Kerry with a wider
margin. Women favored Kerry by 8% here out of 52% of total voters. Men
favored Bush by just 6% out of 48% of total voters. Actual reported results
don't match exit polling AT ALL in Nevada.
*** KERRY leads by 1.3% in exit polls in NV ***
Can someone determine what percentage of precincts are DIEBOLD or
electronic voting machines in these swing states? Of those compare the
expected voting results from Male vs. Female against the results reported
by electronic vs. non-electronic voting places.
My HYPOTHESIS is we will find a discrepancy in the electronic systems vs.
the exit polls and the non-electronic systems.
http://www.democraticunderground.com
/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&add
ress=132x1295396
How The Election Was Stolen
From Roz Hill
roz_hill_2u@hotmail.com
11-3-4
I watched the election results all night and into this morning. There are
some very important issues to share.
One is the surprise expressed by the pundits wherein they acknowledge that
the massive voter drives were propelled by discontent. So how did the most
hated occupant of the White House manage to exceed his 45% poll average to
now claim he has a huge "popular" win.
We are told that 22% voted on "morality" and that Bush took 80% of that
22%, and that is how he won. However, that leaves 78% who were focused on
Kerry issues. Why aren,t we told the percentages of the 78%???
The second surprise for the media was that the results didn,t match the
exit polls AT ALL. The media has gracefully claimed they "just got it
wrong." You remember we didn,t have exit pollsters in 2002. It saved any
disagreement with THAT Republican "sweep." In fact, the pollsters have
always been 100% accurate, with just 1 to 2% polling data, in legitimate
elections. Bush took the Texas governorship from Ann Richards when she had
a 70% approval rating. Is it magic?
My "I TOLD YOU SO" is that I have SCREAMED since 2000 that if we don,t get
rid of touch-screen "voting" computers, NOTHING, NOTHING, NOTHING else will
matter.
So, here are the numbers (so far): 112,596,922 voters counted in the
presidential race. Bush has been consistently polling at 45%, which SHOULD
have given him 50,668,614 votes, instead of 58,073,612. This translates
into 7,404,998 votes being siphoned off from Kerry votes. Now, how does
that magic work???
Taxpayers get hit with a bill for $3600 (or more) for EACH of the
touch-screen "voting" computers, which are nothing more than dedicated
COUNTERS except that they are marketed by Republicans (who vowed to ensure
Bush,s victory); and the American people have not been allowed to examine
or certify the software in these units.
Here is how easy it is to "make magic"
-- we need COUNTERS - (B) = Bush; (K) = Kerry; (V) = Vote; (T) = Tally
1. If V = B, add 1 to B
2. If T = 8, add 1 to B; Clear T; Skip 3
3. If V = K, add 1 to K; Add 1 to T
This extremely simple bit of programming would shift 12% of the vote from
Kerry to Bush, it would defy exit polls, and it would make it look like
Bush had a huge popular win. It is time that the software in these SECRET
Republican-owned computers be examined with a deliberate check for
instructions that could modify the vote tally.
Al-Qaeda has previously regarded the American people as victims of a
crooked election in 2000. Now they regard Americans as responsible for
letting this man -- who is regarded as the worst terrorist on the planet
continue his tyrannous regime. I doubt that the rest of the world will
accept four more years of his lies and looting.
Roz Hill
From Leslie Bell
I am SO Goddamned sick and tired of living in a hijacked country hijacked
by a bunch of Goddamned cheating Nazi BASTARDS who aren't just satisfied
with hijacking the presidency... no, they have to hijack the congressional
seats of all their enemies as well like Daschle and many others.
And I am SO Goddamned sick and tired of three major news networks
PRETENDING the country ISN'T being hijacked. Mr. Rather, I've got news for
you... if it takes TWO Goddamned YEARS to count all the votes and run all
the legal battles out to their eventual outcome, THEN SO BE IT. WHATEVER it
takes, AS LONG AS IT TAKES. Should be YOUR motto too, damnit.
Bush is NOT MY President, he will NEVER BE MY PRESIDENT, and if they
install him once again, I WILL change my citizenship and my domicile as
soon as economically possible and leave this USELESS NAZI COUNTRY to its
INEVITABLE SUICIDE. GO CHINA!
NO WAY did Bush win Nevada with YUCCA MOUNTAIN being the PRIME
CONSIDERATION HERE. NO WAY. That in and of itself should tell EVERYONE the
fix was in. I was at the polls... I SAW all the BLACK PEOPLE, I SAW all the
YOUNG PEOPLE, I SAW all the YOUNG BLACK PEOPLE, NO WAY did Bush win Nevada.
DIDN'T HAPPEN.
And the Diebold bastards are being so slick about it, 1% here, 2% there, 3%
there. I noticed John Roberts got off the board damn quick when he was
showing that 67% of the people in one state THAT BUSH SUPPOSEDLY WON
thought the ECONOMY WAS CRAP.
Now, YOU TELL US HOW THAT HAPPENS.
And as far as absentee ballots... over 90% of them HAVE TO BE DEMOCRAT,
because that was a strategy CONCERNED DEMOCRATS WERE USING to MAKE SURE
THEIR VOTE WAS COUNTED. If those votes don't come up OVERWHELMINGLY
DEMOCRAT, that will be ANOTHER set of votes THEY HACKED.
Your story the next few days SHOULDN'T BE THE LEGAL BATTLES; IT SHOULD BE
GODDAMNED VOTER FRAUD.
Fourth estate my ASS. Free country my ASS. Democracy my ASS. Free elections
my ASS.
Already the pundit bullshit. "Most concerned conservatives must have voted
for Bush anyway."
My ASS they did.
"People must have voted one way and told the exit pollsters something
else."
My ASS they did.
Leslie Bell
Future Swiss Citizen and Resident
Sacrifice, You Hypocrites!
From Alton Raines
11-3-4
Every single blessed idiot that voted for George Bush that has a young male
between the age of 18 and 25 needs to march him down to the Army, Navy,
Marine or Air Force recruitment office AT ONCE! If you're going to support
George Bush sending America's children to die for Israel and the
profitability of the Military Industrial Complex, you need to show it with
your sacrificial offering and not just sit back and let the "other" guys
kid who joined the Army or the Guard to get an education be the only one in
a body bag, or missing a limb or suffering from DU exposure. Show your
patriotism with real sacrifice! George is perfectly willing to ship 'em off
in droves. He's having to scrape the bottom of the barrel now, re-calling
fifty and sixty year old Army personnel back into action, as well as
sending mother's of newborns. You voted for this warlord, so ante up!
Haven't you heard? We're in a "war on terror"!!! There's blood to be
spilled and nations to be conquered in the name of "democracy"! It's a
glorious Crusade, approved by no less than Almighty God Himself! As George
said, "it's hard work."
I hope you're ready to do your part to keep America safe from whatever new
boogieman 'W' and his NeoCon cronies decide is "the" next bad guy. Sure, it
won't matter that he sends your kid over there looking for weapons of mass
destruction -- that we know are there because we SOLD them to them -- and
then they change their reason. You didn't care about that, anyway, you blew
it off... you accepted the scenario switch... as long as it was someone
ELSES kid getting his legs blown off for Haliburton Inc.,.. it was
JUSTIFIED. And you convinced yourself it was because George had a heart,
nay, a BURDEN for the poor Iraqi people, to be their Moses, to set them
free. Ok, you've proven to the world you're a fucking fool. Now follow
through and don't hold back! In fact, maybe YOU should GET YOUR ASS OVER
THERE, eh? You want to see 'Democracy' flourish so bad, YOU sign up and
sacrifice yourself for it. 'W' is calling you!
From Leslie Bel
11-3-4
I watched the concession speech. They definitely threatened the life of
Teresa, his daughters, and her children.
He made them squirm to when he mentioned Teresa and his daughters in his
speech, but still, if he said anything about the call, they would be dead
the next time they boarded a plane.
That's the kind of people you have running Amerika.
And why I AM LEAVING. What's left is not worth fighting for. Not a shred.
From viscts
11-3-4
With my big black boots and an old suitcase
I do believe Iíll find myself a new place
I donít want to be the bad guy
I donít want to do your sleepwalk dance anymore
I just want to see some palm trees
Go and try and shake away this disease
We can live beside the ocean
Leave the fire behind
Swim out past the breakers
Watch the world die
We can live beside the ocean
Leave the fire behind
Swim out past the breakers
Watch the world die
From Lost In America
11-3-4
Jeff,
I voted on Tuesday. When I pushed the button to finish my vote something
strange happened and the machine flashed ALL Republican.
I complained at the poll place about it and was told to leave. I called the
myvote1 line but what else can be done?
WAKE UP, AMERICA
From Jacqueline Flanigan
11-3-4
Democrats did not lose, they were cheated as were all the people of
America. I watched the election from start to finish, and I am sorry folks
but it just didn't smell right and my instincts were verified when the
incident came up with the woman in Florida. You remember the woman that
voted a straight Democrat ticket and it came up as all Republican on the
verification screen. The incident was shown on CNN for all to see, but only
once.
This was not a computer glitch that just happened to pop up. This was one
programming key that was missed when they added the programming for the
verifying screen. I know what I am talking about because I use to be a very
excellent programmer on one of the most structured programming languages
that was ever invented, Cobol. This language will not run unless it is
perfect and once it is perfect it does not make mistakes. It was not used
more, because it took a lot of man hours to debug it in order for it to run
a program and companies did not want to pay for the man hours so less
structured languages were used that will run even if they have a few bugs.
Well, this little incident was one of those bugs that the programmers
missed when they coded in the programming for the verifying screen and the
program ran anyway. So what we have here folks is voting machines that have
been programmed to convert a straight Democrat ticket to a straight
Republican ticket. That is one command key and there could possibly be more
command keys with other tasks to cheat the voters out of their votes.
What I am saying to you, all of you, Republicans and Democrats alike. If
you do not demand that these machines be analyzed by outside sources and
proven to be clean voting machines than you have lost your FREEDOM on
November the 2nd, 2004 and forever, and you will never get it back without
blood shed and maybe not then.
Concerned American, who does not want to lose her freedom.
From John Farr - UK
11-3-4
Jesus H. Christ...How could you do it again???
Another 4 years of that total bastard. I'm a Brit and we have a natural
afinity with America
but I just cannot believe you would willingly elect the Oil Mafia again. I
guess you have your eyes on Syria next. Won't be a 'coalition' this time.
Brother...What's the matter with you? Saddens me to see you this way.
From Terry Anderson
11-3-4
I will fly the flag upside down on my car and in front of my house.
This country just went into total distress.
From Matt
11-4-4
I am appalled...and sick to my stomach right now. How could Bush have
possibly won this election? No one that I know voted for him because he's a
tyrant, an imbecile, a fool, and a murderer. He's sacrificing our men and
women overseas, not in the name of a "War on Terror", but in the name of
"Oil Profits". He either allowed, or had a hand in September 11th, to
create a case for furthering his agendas.
Voting Killsas it will soon prove. Anyone who voted for Bush is guilty and
will be guilty ten fold for the things that we are about to face in the
coming four years.
This election was a farce to begin with. Bush and Kerry are cousins, of the
same bloodline, belong to Skull and Bones, each of them have something to
gain out of this. And here's an interesting theory for you. What if Kerry
never intended to win? What if Kerry was a cover patsy, just so it appeared
that Bush had opposition, JUST to keep the Sheople of America in check,
leading them to believe that their votes actually counted for something.
Bush was destined to win, and by his own hand.
How can you lose when you own most of the companies, or have a hand in
them, that make the E-Voting Machines? Machines that provide no Audit
Trail, made by Companies that fought tooth and nail in the courts to keep
an Audit Trail a dead issue for these devices. The only reason anyone would
NOT want an Audit Trail is if they had something to hide. It is a sad day
in America. Comparably sad to September 11th. We've just had another
Terrorist attack, and it's a 4 year bomb called George W. Bush.
To all of those that have adopted stupidity as their way of life, for those
that voted to drop this bomb on us again, you're going to get what you
deserve when you're little mistake backfires on you. You play with fire,
you get burnt. And Bush is all about Burning. No pun intended. He'll see to
it that the rest of our rights are revoked, and he'll see to it that the
world is at complete war. If you don't think it's possible that he can do
so much in four years, why don't you take a step back and look at the last
fucking four years that you people imposed on us. And if you can't see the
damage he's done, then stab your eyes out, because they're obviously
useless to you.
From Matthew Rosiere
11-4-4
Bush will win the Presidency, it is inevitable, because he has those that
control the counts in his pocket, either for money, or for fear of death.
I did not register to vote, because there was no point in voting. You all
knew this as well as I. Especially after the 2000 Election. What the 2000
Election should have embedded in everyones' minds is that Joe Public's
voice doesn't matter, and never will, unless we stand up and fight to
ensure that it does. And not only for us, but for our future generations,
if we last that long. Honestly, I don't think this country is going to last
another four years.
There is no way in Hell that Bush received that many votes for this
Election. And if he did, then those who voted for him are complicit in the
murder of thousands upon thousands of men, women, and children, and for no
other reason than to steal what they have, and what he wants. And you're
guilty for the murder of our own men, women, and children that are being
sent over seas at the command of an insane tyrant. An insane tyrant that
you're allowing to rule. You think about that. What will you have to say on
your judgment day? "God, I just wanted cheaper gas."? I don't think he's
going to like that answer.
And if you think that our government can control the price of oil, you're
dead wrong. The only control they have over the prices of gasoline is the
ability to increase it. Price gouging. You wait until the winner is
announced. Gas prices will double. And just what are you going to do about
it? Most likely nothing. You'll bend over and take it in the ass like a
good little sheep to it's shepherd.
This election was rigged, plain and simple. Think about this. E-Voting. Why
were these companies fighting to keep an audit trail out of the equation?
You don't fight so hard unless you have something to fight for, or well, in
this case, something to hide.
If you have a child or a love one close by, you look into their eyes right
now, and you tell them that you're sorry. You tell them that you're sorry
you've killed them. You might as well do it now, because when the bright
flash comes, and everything you know is reduced to ash in an instant,
you'll never get the chance to apologize for your complicity in what just
happened to them. By allowing Bush to steal office for another 4 years,
you've all, in essence guaranteed your deaths. The world will not tolerate
Nazi America for another 4 years. And Nazis are what we have become
Dedicated to the Right to Free Will,
Matt